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If you are a newcomer to online discussion this is for you. It will help you understand what is going on and help ensure that your inexperience doesn't show. You may have been using eMail for years but if you have never contributed to Newsgroup discussions or used mailing lists before please make a point of reading this guidance. There is a great difference between private eMail between a couple of people and public eMail. It is also well to remember that many of Newham Online's mailing lists automatically publish all eMails onto the Web so what you write can be read by anyone.
If everyone follows this guidance online discussion becomes a more pleasant and informative experience for all involved. Please show your respect for others by complying with this guidance.
Please also read the rules before contributing to a discussion.
Please don't send messages that would be longer than one side of A4 if they were printed. Messages that are short and well organised will be appreciated. Most people will be reading your messages on a computer screen and may well only be able to see the first fifteen lines or so at a time. If those first lines don't catch their interest they may read no further.
If you want to write a detailed essay on the subject under discussion you should contact the Discussion Moderator who will probably be able to assist by putting your contribution on a web site associated with the list. You will then be able to send a short message to the list simply giving the URL of your document and telling people what it is about.
Some people receive well over fifty e.mails a day, so if you are writing more than a few lines, it is a good idea to give a very brief summary at the start so people can quickly see whether it is of interest to them.
Remember that people from all backgrounds may want to read your message. Writing in a bureaucratic or thoughtlessly complex style will probably exclude some people from the discussion. If you are going to use an abbreviation please give the full term followed by the abbreviation the first time it is used in a discussion.
You may see odd punctuation such as :-) in messages. These are known as "smileys" or "emoticons" and to understand them you need to look sideways. Emoticons are very useful when you want people to know that you intend something you write to be taken as a joke
|Frequently used ones include:|
|:-) Smile||;-) Wink||:-D Big smile|
|:-( Sad||:-0 Shocked|
There are a number of abbreviations that are commonly used in online discussions, presumably to cut down the typing. Some of the most frequently spotted are:-
|BTW||By the way|
|FAQ||Frequently asked questions|
|AFAIK||As far as I know|
|TIA||Thanks in advance|
|IMO or IMHO||In my (humble) opinion|
|ROFL or IROFL||(I) rolled on the floor laughing|
Many times in eMail discussion, someone will get annoyed because they feel they are being lectured at even when that wasn't intended. A simple statement of opinion comes across as a didactic statement of fact - "telling" instead of 'discussing' or 'arguing'. This can be avoided by the use of IMO (in my opinion), making it clear that you are expressing a view, not purporting to know absolute truth.
For some strange reason, in some eMail systems, the '?' sign comes out as '=A3' This
causes great confusion. So type 'pounds', 'UKP' or 'GBP' instead of '?'.
Example: The price is GBP 6.50.
It is harder to read capitals than lower case type. It is normally considered rude to type in upper case and is often referred to as "shouting", the reason for this is that in group eMail discussion people often quote what others say and if you have written your ideas in capitals they will dominate other peoples contributions.
If you use the tab key to line up information it is almost certain not to work properly. Instead use spaces to line up tables.
If the layout of your eMail matters, the only way you can be sure of getting the effect you want is to use a non proportional font*, select the "send as shown" option or its equivalent, and prepare your eMail using a width of no more than 65 characters per line. Please note that this is tedious and you will probably only want to do this if you wish to include tables in your eMail. (*also know as Fixed Width Font or Fixed Pitch Fonts)
It is best to use short paragraphs with space between so people can skip read more easily, this is also made easier if you use headings. Unfortunately most eMail doesn't make it easy to show headings. CAPITALS for main headings and a *for sub headings* is one way of dealing with this.
Some people attach signature files automatically to the end of each eMail. If you want to do this please restrict it to around 5 lines .
If you want everyone in a Discussion Group to be able to see a file do not attach it to your eMail and send it to the list. Instead send the file to the Discussion Moderator and ask that them to put it on the web site or put it on yourself if you have been given access to the web site to do so. Please note that though this is not listed as a rule repeated breach of this guideline may be regarded as an abuse of the service.
The reasons for this guidance is:-
Exceptionally a mailing list may be set up specifically for the purpose of exchanging files but this will be made clear to all participants before joining.
You must try and keep to the "subject" of the eMail that you are replying to. A series of eMails with a particular subject is known as a "thread". It is important that people contributing to a thread do not start discussing other matters (such as what they are doing for their holidays!) This is a very important guideline. Indeed it is so important that it is one of the Rules.
If your reply is relevant to the subject of the original eMail but in your opinion raises a distinct issue within the subject that is deserving of attention, it is OK to reply and make a change to the subject line indicating the specific aspect you wish to discuss
e.g. original subject: Transport Policy
changed by reply to
new subject: Car Drivers (was Transport Policy)
The general topic has now spawned a specific discussion about car drivers.
If your reply would really be leading discussion far away from the existing subject it may not be appropriate to the Discussion Group at all. For instance in the Newham Creative Network a discussion about West Ham's latest football match would be completely inappropriate and would be breaking the rules governing how the discussions are run.
Messages sent to the Discussion Group are for public discussion and you should therefore reply publicly to that Discussion Group unless you have something personal and private to say to an individual sender.
Some eMail software will automatically address your reply to the Discussion Group address but other products will address it only to the person who sent the message you are replying to; in this case you will need to change the address of your message to that of the Discussion Group.
Please don't create a new message to get around the problem of eMail software that fails to automatically address your reply to the mailing list - its essential for discussion "threading" that your new message has exactly the same "subject line" as the previous message.
Please don't send messages just saying "I agree with Freda" or similar. eMail is not a good way for taking a vote, just imagine what it would be like to have 100 members of a list all registering their opinion.
If someone has put out a request for information such as "does anyone know..." it is best to reply privately as its a safe bet that not everyone on the list will be interested in the answer and there is also the danger that a lot of people will say the same thing. Let the person asking the question cope with the eMail and don't make everyone else suffer.
Similarly if someone has written something that has upset you, eMail them personally about it. If they have upset enough people the volume of eMail they get is likely to make them think twice in future. It is a rule of Newham Online that disputes must be conducted through private eMail and not through public discussion. Please refer to the rules to see how you can make a complaint if you think that the rules have been broken.
Probably the most embarrassing mistake you can make is to accidentally send a message to a mailing list when you thought that you were replying privately. This mistake is very easy to make if someone sends you a personal eMail and copies it to the mailing list. If you reply without noticing that the original was copied to the list it is quite likely that your reply will go to the list also. Always check where your eMails are going before you hit the send button. Its also worth making a habit of not sending copies of any personally addressed eMail to a mailing list as this is almost always inappropriate.
Each Discussion Group was set up for a particular purpose that was described within the Introductory eMail you received when you first joined the Discussion. Please try and keep the subjects you discuss within the agreed range of topics for the list.
If you are starting a new line of discussion give your eMail a subject line that is as clear as possible. Remember that some discussions run for a long time so it is worth thinking about it for a minute or two. Keeping the subject line short helps as some eMail software only shows the first 30 characters or so when listing eMails. Also it is easier to add to a short subject line to indicate when a subject has changed slightly.
Do not use 'reply to this message' if you want to start discussing something new as this will muck up the threading on the web based archive of the list (if such exists)
In larger Discussion Group it becomes very boring for everyone if every new person to the list asks the same questions. For this reason some Discussion Groups will have created a document called a FAQ (Frequently asked Questions) on the Web site that is associated with most Discussion Groups. When you first join a Discussion Group the introductory eMail you receive will tell you if there is a FAQ associated with the Group. If there is please read this document before asking a question to ensure that it is not one of the questions that most people ask and which has been answered many times before.
If you are seeking information about something it is OK to ask people in the Discussion Group for advice BUT always ask people to reply to your private eMail address. After you have got your replies it may be appropriate to summarise them for the participants in the Discussion Group. This approach means that most people have to read just two eMails namely your question and your synopsis of the answers you received. If they want more they can ask you privately.
A common practice in eMail discussion is to "quote" by including part of the previous person's message and then replying to it. This is helpful in providing context for your reply but it is easily overdone and can become irritating.
The convention for quoting is that each quoted line starts with a > like this:
>This is a quoted line
Some eMail software puts this symbol in automatically but it can easily be entered from the keyboard.
Some eMail software allows you to quote the whole of the message you are replying to and add your comment to the end. There is never any justification for doing this unless the original eMail is only a couple of lines long. Remember that in a Discussion Group, everyone will already have received the original message and they won't thank you for sending it to them again.
If you decide to quote someone please include the name of the sender and the date of the eMail you are quoting eg
On 13th March Freda Smith MP wrote
>the election will definitely be called before April
As it is now April 1st does she want to update her prediction - preferably before noon ;-)
This allows anyone that is interested to refer back to the original message.
It is possible to quote selectively to give a completely false impression of what was meant. For instance if Freda Smith MP writes:
Those people that think the election will definitely be called before April should stick to reading tea leaves.
She is not going to be pleased to read a quote that On 13th March Freda Smith MP wrote the election will definitely be called before April
If you wish to suggest alterations to this guidance, please contact firstname.lastname@example.org. These Guidelines are agreed by the Discussion Moderators Group and may be changed from time to time.
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