Minutes of meeting of Newham Online Steering Group - 24th.
Aug 99
Present:
Danny Budzak (DB), Jon Harris (JH), Rik Lewis (RL), Loraine Leeson (LL), John Lock
(JL), Michael Mulquin (MM),
Adrian Norman (AN), Richard Stubbs (RJS)
Apologies
Richard Steel (RS), Gill Davies (GD)
Newham Online Steering Group minutes & matters arising
The minutes of the meeting of 9th March
were agreed.
(Ref 1.2) A meeting had been held to discuss and direct the extranet aspect of the
project.
(Ref 2.2) In terms of the Gateway site development:- the site design had been agreed,
the eCommerce contract had been let, the links database had been tested and was being
adapted to the site, the search engine was being tested on the Council's site and there
was a problem that had not yet been resolved. Government Office London's consent to
extension of the project had been sought
(Ref 2.3) RJS had liased with AN and seemed likely that Go2Find would use the same
Actinic software chosen for the Newham Gateway site. The eCommerce project was moving
forward in partnership with UeL's Europilot project.
(Ref 4.6) Htdig had been installed on two Computer Access servers. The main pilot was
its use on the Council's web site but another installation had indexed UeL's and a number
of other sites so as we could learn how to allow users select particular sites or groups
of sites. The main reason for delay with full implementation of the search engine is that
the test indexing installation has fallen over a couple of times and we need to pin down
why this is happening. Danny suggested that the Council site should also use the Gateway
Search engine so as to be able to offer a search across all Newham sites as this would be
more convenient for users. Richard Stubbs said that he felt this meant that every Newham
site could simply take the functionality of the Gateway and put it on their own site thus
undermining the point of the Gateway in the first place. It was agreed that DB and RJS
should discuss this in more detail and make a recommendation to the Steering Committee
(Ref 4.7) Peter Chauncy had given some feedback on the search engine but full testing
awaits a working version of the whole site. DB to ask PC to mail feedback to the core
list.
(Ref 4.10). DB, AN and RJS had not discussed IPR as we are still implementing the basic
functionality developed by others, the most recent addition being the ability to index pdf
and doc files
(Ref 5.2) The urgency for registration of Newham.Net was decreased by the generosity of
Mase which undertook to maintain the equipment without a contract in place rather than
push us into too rapid an adoption of rules.
(Ref 5.3) With regards to the 1,000 pounds allocated for legal advice no payment has yet
been made as we are still consulting on matters of principle and the payment will only be
needed with respect to the final drafting.
(Ref 5.7) RS had taken no action towards becoming Company Secretary of Newham.net as
this awaited agreed Mem & Arts.
(Ref 6.1) No progress had been made on an AGM due mainly to delays in the delays to the
establishment of Newham.Net and the launch of the Gateway site. It was agreed to discuss
this later in the meeting.
(Ref 7.2) Richards Steel and Stubbs had met with Lambeth Council and Brixton Online to
discuss co-operation. The first practical result had been a bid by Brixton Online to
convert their Learning platform into a tool that could be used within the Education Action
Zone but this was unsuccessful
MM noted that he would soon be meeting the new IBM member of staff with responsibility
for local government and he would report to Core on any opportunities identified.
Steering Committee weekend away
It was agreed that the purpose of the event should be to bring people up to speed on
what we are doing so that they can explain it to others, mapping the Newham Online
environment and to develop a vision of the way forward for Newham Online assuming that
Newham.net is registered and takes over responsibility for infrastructure development and
managing the gateway site. We also need to discuss the relationship between Newham.net and
Newham Online. Agreed MM, JL, AN and RJS to work up detailed programme and circulate in
advance.
The timing of the outline programme was revised as follows:-
FRI
Travel down to arrive Taunton at 15.30 (waterloo and minibus)
15.30-16.30 Settle in and freshen up
16.30 Work session 1
19.30 Meal
20.00 Networking at local pub..
SAT
8.00 Breakfast
9.00 Work session 2
13.00 Lunch
14.00 Work session 3
16.30 Tea
17.00 Work session 4
19.30 Meal
20.00 Networking
SUN
8.00 Breakfast
9.00 Work session 5
13.00 Lunch
14.00 ENDS
(Depending on weather plenty of opportunities for pleasant local walk around area prior to
travelling back)
Richard to get individual confirmations as to attendance. Adrian and Richard Stubbs to
liase re logistics and advance booking to secure party reductions if possible. We noted
that Jon Harris was unable to come. Agreed that Colin Bluck, who is a colleague of
Norman's, would be welcome to attend the first session.
LL could provide a computer projector.
Memorandum and articles of Newham.net
A report was presented. It was
agreed that we should include the aim of being a PTO within the aims of the company
We decided that we would not seek a majority of the Newha,net board to be members of the
Steering Committee.
The board members need to have relevant experience to help with registration issue.
There are potential problems of people being members of the Board if they are employed
by an organisation which is a member. RJS to discuss this with RS to learn about the
Council's policy on this.
The case for why we wish Newham.net to be a company limited by guarantee needs to be
made clear. The intention is that the company can trade commercially but that it cannot be
bought or sold.
It was agreed to approach UCL for advice with regard to registration.
Adrian suggested that we need to develop contracts that would exist between the main
owners of local infrastructure and the company. These contracts could allow nomination of
a representative to the board. The directors would oversee this process and it would have
to be referred to in the agreement with Members. This would avoid the difficulty of the
Council being capable of losing its place on the Board.
Newham Online Background document
This document had been created by John Lock
with assistance from RJS and was intended to act as a resource document that could serve
as a basis for production of a range of materials.
NeOn was agreed as the new acronym for Newham Online.
Agreed to re-word para 2 of the proposed benefits section that is about NYPO
DB suggested some bits could be expanded for people interested in more detail.
Agreed to use as basis of a web site explaining our activities. DB will lead on
developing this. We would have a target date for first draft as 17th. Sept.
Marketing
DB said that it was important that we marketed NeOn to both Members and officers. He was
working with an increasing network of people that were developing material for the Web and
the explanation of NeOn's activities could be published on the intranet site as well as
the Internet (or extranet)
It was agreed that we should aim to turn the report into something akin to the quality
of the network audit which required pictures and artwork some 500 copies should be
produced.
RJS to see it Mase and/or Marconi are interesting in sponsoring publication of the
document.
JL and RJS had approached Andy Minnion at UeL in the hope that his student could help
with production of artwork and materials that could be used for both web site and
publication.
AGM
Agreed should be held in mid November. RJS to approach Martyn Laycock about possibility
of using Duncan House.
We should have a high profile speaker. It was agreed to ask Chris Yapp, who came up with
the idea of the NGfL and the UfI, if he would be prepared to speak (minute takers note -
Chris has subsequently agreed to do this)
We should ask NYPO if they would be happy to present their video, with luck we should be
able to have the online digital version up and running by then.
Obviously having at least a beta version of the gateway ready for the AGM was essential.
We should also produce a printed invite and not rely solely on eMail.
We needed 3 or 4 volunteers who would actually phone people up and get them along. DB
was our first volunteer for this role.
Next Steering Group Meeting
In effect this would be the weekend conference on 1st/3rd October.
Minutes by Richard Stubbs